Simple Plan talked with Alternative Press and reflected on the real story behind the band’s debut album No Pads, No Helmets…Just Balls. Here’s what frontman Pierre Bouvier had to say about working with producer Arnold Lanni:

There were some difficult times, for sure. We felt like it was a pretty big opportunity for us and we didn’t want to mess it up because if you mess up your first record, you’re kind of doomed. I think Arnold is really an artist, and I think he gets caught up in that “let’s make this the best that we can” [mentality]. We were working with Arnold for about a year-and-a-half before we got signed, so we spent a lot of time together and there was a lot of clashing of opinions. He came from a different world than we did, and he wanted to push the quirky, pop side of what we were doing. We were more of the pop-punk guys that wanted to keep it a little more simple. He would say there was no dynamic in the band. We were all perfectionists. Some days, I’d sing vocals for a whole song—lead vocals, backing vocals, everything. I’d spend hours and hours and hours while he was out of the studio, doing something else. Then he’d come back at night, at 9, 10 p.m., and listen to them, and be like, “Yeah, I don’t know. I’m not sure I’m feeling that; we’re going to do that again tomorrow.” And I’d be like, “What? I just sang my heart out all day and that’s not cutting it!”

Check out the rest of the interview here.